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Re: What features do P-I-E languages have in common?

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Thursday, July 17, 2003, 17:30
Quoting "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...>:

> Quoting John Cowan <jcowan@...>: > > > Mark J. Reed scripsit: > > > > > Okay, my goal is to design a family of languages that all descend > > > from PIE, but have been completely isolated from all other > > > members of that family for the past few tens of millennia > > > > The time depth of PIE is only about 6000 years. > > This is by no means universally accepted, though it is the currently > reigning orthodoxy. In particular, those who advocate an Anatolian > Urheimat, such as Colin Renfrew, usually claim an age of somewhere > between 7,000 and 9,000 years B.P., when agriculture was spreading > out of Anatolia into Europe and elsewhere. One of the key pieces of > evidence usually cited in favor of the orthodox age is the fact that > a PIE root for "wheel" can be reconstructed, and no wheels have been > discovered earlier than about 6,000 years B.P.
I, a while ago, saw a web-page, by that glottalic theory guy whose name begins in G- and ends in -dze, which presented a scenario in which the real Urheimat was in eastern Anatolia and/or southern Caucasia, but after the splitting off of Anatolian, Greek and Armenian, the remainder went north to the steppelands N or NE of the Black Sea, where they eventually broke up into the other branches. Possibly Indo-Iranian was supposed to have broken off before crossing the Caucasus - can't recall. Not being an IEist, to me this seems to nicely combine both the "Orthodox" and "Anatolian" ideas on the Urheimat. What does the list's IE sages say? Andreas