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Re: English syllable structure (was, for some reason: Re: Llirine: How to creat a language)

From:Cheng Zhong Su <suchengzhong@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 11, 2001, 22:24
 --- Roger Mills <romilly@...> wrote:
> Andreas Johansson wrote: > >While this seems to be question of education style > and ideology rather than > >of anything language-related*, I'd like to point > out that I know several > >people who now the table of elements by heart (in > Swedish, but from the > >Mandarin point of view Swedish is essentially > English). Also, it's very > >questionable whether the average person NEEDS to > know all the elements. > > Alas, I knew most of it during highschool > chemistry...and wish I could > remember even a bit of it now. Since I always liked > useless and otherwise > marginal things, I was quite fascinated by the "Rare > Earths", always printed > off to the side and ignorable. Even the teacher > couldn't say much about > them. What, I still wonder, are the uses of > ytterbium (??) and all those > other strange elements?
Answer: I think the ELL give a better answer than I P4538 said: “S.C.Gilfillan argued that technology develops through gradual evolution and accretion of details, and that the idea of a distinct invention is conceptually ambiguous. Therefore, ‘invention’ is a matter of language, not physical reality. “ “Ogburn held that the accumulation of inventions followed an exponential curve, because many new inventions are mere combinations of preexisting elements and the more such elements exist the greater the number of new ones that can be achieved by adding them together. But the individual human mind is limited, and thus there is a limit to how many technical ideas a person can remember.” “As anthropologist Leslie A. White puts it, like all other aspects of culture, technology depends upon the human capacity for symbolling. Language, he says, transformed the nonprogressive, noncumulative tool process of anthropoids into a cumulative and progressive process in the human species.” P4536 said: “A substantial fraction of all words used in ordinary speech, and perhaps a majority of all nouns in modern languages, are technological. That is, they name elements of tools, machines, chemical processes, agricultural techniques, transportation systems and electronic communications network. More than a million species of animals and plants have been named, but George Basalla noted that three times as many inventions have been patented in the United States alone.” “Even under more restricted definitions, technological terminology constitutes a substantial portion of lexicon, and the processes by which these terms emerge present interesting challenges for linguistics.” Su Cheng Zhong http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers!

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