Re: Group Conlang (was: Re: a Conlang, created by the group?)

De: Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Fecha: Domingo 11 de Octubre de 1998 22:17

> If we get rid of verb roots, it should have a predicate case affix. I'm
> still not convinced that getting rid of verb roots is a good idea. I'd
> prefer to derive the noun "bite" from the verb "to bite".
Well, my original idea was not getting rid of verbs roots, but giving no
morphological distinction between verb roots and noun roots.

Probably some roots will be more verbal, some other will be more nominal,
some other will be more atributive (adjectives).

The concept "bite" is an action, the predicative form will mean just that:
sb(erg) performes the action of biting (bites) sbe(abs).

The concept "red" is an atribute.  The nominal forms would mean "red color",
the predicative would mean "being red" (with undergoer) or "making/hold red"
(with agent-patient).

The concept "dog" is nominal.

Thus, using Pablos examples:
> frar-  "dog"
> kjak-  "bite, bit"
> wiv-   "red"
> s-     "I, me, first person"
> qaun-  "hard, strong"
>
> Case markers:
> a-   agent
> pe-  patient
> di-  predicate
> ys-  undergoer
> mu-  modifier
>
> Other markers:
> -o, -i  (dummy gender markers)
> -ul  past tense
> -e   present tense
Adding -en for present tense dinamic

afraro pesi dikjakul
: the dog bit me

asi pefraro diwiven
: I paint the dog red

ysfraro diwive
: The dog is red

muwivo afraro pesi dikjakul
: The red dog bit me
(note gender agreement)

muwivo afraro pesi muqaunul dikjakul
: The red dog bit me hard

mufrari yskjaki diqaunul
: The dog's bite was hard

-- Carlos Th