Re: Arvorec plural endings, replacement of cases
From: | Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, June 6, 2001, 17:21 |
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:30:38 -0700 Tom Pullman <tom@...>
writes:
> Well, I'm not Keith, but I'm not sure whether speakers of a language
> would ever take the genitive plural for a nominative plural,
> especially if there was a still-active dative case. The genitive is
> a more basic idea than the dative: I'm not aware of any language
> with a dative that doesn't have a genitive. So if a language is
> losing its noun cases, the dative will go before the genitive, and
> if it's going to be one of them that's hijacked for the general
> plural ending it's much more likely to be the dative, I'd say.
> Tom Pullman
> "Dochuala as borb nad légha."
> Sùgi òl yrregoon lo! Jèkeri yrrego!
-
Just a little AndAsForMyConLang note...
in my romance conlang, Judajca, the original genitives become
nominatives, while the original nominatives become construct-case. this
is due to a shift in the mental analysis of nominative-genitive phrases:
(sorry, but i don't have my latin dictionary handy to come up with actual
examples)
phrases like:
water of-life
become re-analyzed as:
water-of life
when Romance is overlayed on a Hebrew system in which only the second
from is possible.
-Stephen (Steg)
"sleep, like a fog, blew over him." ~ _gilgamesh_