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Re: draqa syntax - help please?

From:Kristian Jensen <kljensen@...>
Date:Monday, September 25, 2000, 23:12
Ajin-Kwai wrote:

>Hey, i've finally figured out a simple way to describe draqa syntax, but >don't really know what to call it or how to properly label the terms. I >wonder if anyone out there could help me out... > >Basically, there is no distinction between Noun and Verb; parts of speech >are Particle and Root. Particles can be bound or unbound. Many Bound >Particles double as Roots; and any Root can take any Bound Particle. > >The best way describe draqa syntax is to say that it has one basic form: > >Predicate - Relator - Argument > >The Predicate is mandatory. >The Argument is of secondary importance, optional. >The Relator explicates the relationship between the Predicate and >Argument, and is optional.
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>So, what kind of syntax is this? Would this language be described as VOS, >VSO, etc? Is there a better way to explain all this? Thanks for any help >:)
Although Draqa syntax is quite out-of-this-world, there is a lot in it that reminds me of Boreanesian syntax. Boreanesian is a trigger language, like many West Austronesian natlangs. Like Draqa, the basic form of Boreanesian syntax is also predicate followed by a core argument (none core arguments are more or less incorporated into the predicate). Also, like Draqa, it is useless to think in terms of subject/object since such a distinction does not exist and since distinction in valency is non-existent. A very brief demonstration of Boreanesian syntax is in order. If I were to say "The stork eats the frogs in the field", the literal Boreanesian translation could (depending on what argument is the topic) be either; "The stork is the frog's eater in the field", "The frog is the stork's food in the field", or "The field is the stork's frog eating place". This a lot like Draqa IMHO. Like Draqa, the concept of subject/object is almost meaningless. Problem is, the concept of subject/object is so deeply imbedded in linguistic theory that it becomes a necessity to think in those terms. In trigger languages like Tagalog (Filipino), this is especially problematic. The solution I have seen in the literature is to universally treat the triggers (i.e., the focus argument) in trigger langs as the subject and all other non-oblique arguments as object. This is the same principle I have adopted for Boreanesian. What I have done when I want to describe Boreanesian syntax in terms of word order types is to say that Boreanesian is VOS because the most pragmatically neutral position for predicates is in first position while the trigger argument is in last position. It then makes sense to say that O is in between V and S -- hence VOS. In Tagalog, the solution is quite messy and results in an answer saying: VSO, sometimes VOS, and occasionally SVO -- all depending on what argument is focused or topicalized. Basically, its all a matter of adapting to what linguistic theory has to offer. In your case, you could say both VSO and VOS, i.e. predicate initial with arguments following in any order depending on..... remembering to define the terms to suite both your language and linguistic theory. Another alternative, especially as it seems Draqa is an alien language, is to make up your own theories. In this case, your hands are completely free -- and you can just ignore most of what I have just written ;) BTW, I like what you have done. -kristian- 8)