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Re: USAGE: Count and mass nouns

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Thursday, January 15, 2004, 8:13
Philippe Caquant wrote:
> If X is "sand", I would rather think it's mass, but it doesn't mean > that I don't want to say "a grain of sand" sometimes. The same with > corn, grass...
Yet, what about "peas"? In English (the standard, at least), corn is mass, so that you have to refer to "kernels of corn", but "peas" are count, so that you can refer to "peas", you don't have to say *kernels of peas or some other usage. Yet, at one time, "pease" was mass. And in modern times, the word "data" has become, in many people's speach, a mass noun, while historically it was a plural count noun. Any solid *can* be count. Liquids are more naturally mass. But, even liquids can be made count if you define the term as "drop of" or a convenient amount, either vague or a specifically defined amount. I don't know if any language does that, tho. The few that I know anything about mass/count do still use liquids like "water" as mass. They just don't necessarily make a grammatical distinction, such that, e.g., in Spanish, "mucho(s)" can be translated as "much" or "many" -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42

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PHILIPPE CAQUANT <herodote92@...>