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Re: Idea for a new ASCII-IPA scheme

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Friday, June 25, 1999, 1:38
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:25:46 -0500, Carlos Thompson
<carlos_thompson@...> wrote:

>Nik wrote: > >> While D looks nothing like edh, V bares only a slight resemblance to >> carat, @ has no resemblance to schwa, and & has no resemblance to ash =
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>> in fact, the only reason I can see for that is that "and" has an ash, =
at
>> least in my dialect, and presumably that of the inventor. > >Well. Actually in SAMPA, the symbol for the almost wide open frontal =
vowel
>(IPA ae ligature or ash) is {, the & symbol is from Kirchenbaum(sp?)... =
but
>I agree is more used, and more clear in my opinion, & than {. > >-- Carlos Th
That { symbol is one of the things I specifically dislike about SAMPA. In general the SAMPA vowels aren't very clear to me; 6 would have been = better for "turned script a" than the infrequently used "turned a", and 2 for "slashed o" is just weird. (I'd prefer using 0 for "slashed o", but it could get confused with O, and who these days remembers that zero used to be slashed? At least % gets across the idea of "circle+slash" even though it doesn't look much like a letter of the alphabet.....) I think Kirshenbaum's system was one of the first to use & for (ae), but I've seen it in other systems, and it's what everyone seems to use. As = for @ resembling schwa, it may not look much like it in a standard font, but = it may have looked more like schwa in one of the old 5x7 bitmapped text = fonts. -- languages of Kolagia---> = +---<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/languages.html>--- Thryomanes /"If all Printers were determin'd not to print = any (Herman Miller) / thing till they were sure it would offend no = body, moc.oi @ rellimh <-/ there would be very little printed." -Ben = Franklin