Re: [IE conlangs]]

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:55:52 EDT Josh Roth <Fuscian@...> writes:
>>> In the NYC / Long Island area /&/ before nasals and /s/ (grass,
>can,ran,
>>> Sam, bass, damn, fast; but it seems not before /N/) becomes the
>diphthong
>>> [e@].  It also happens in other words, such as "bad" and "stab".
>I think I know what you're talking about here . . . tho I wouldn't
>describe
>it as [e@] - in fact I have no idea what it was. There probably is no
>IPA
>symbol for it. I would use it in all the words above, tho, except in
>"can"
>when it means "be able to" (tho it is used in "can't") and also, "ran"
>I
>think could be either one.
Although "can" ( = "be able to" ) usually comes out for me as just [kn],
so "i can shoot the can" is something like [ajkn Sut D@ ke@n].  I can't
think of any time when i would pronounce "can" (=be able) out fully....it
just sounds so weird.
Hmm...i just tried an experiment with my brother:
Brother:  "you can't do that!" [ju: ke@n(t)du: D&t]
Me: "yes i can!" [jEsaj ke@n]

I guess "can" is one of those 'whishy-washy' words....

I use [e@] to describe it because that's what i saw in the IPA
transcription of the word "care" in my Spanish-English dictionary.  I saw
[E@] somewhere else, but the vowel always sounded to me that it's too
high up to start with [E].

I think i just figured it out what it is exactly....it seems to be some
kind of [e] with the tongue a bit more back towards [@], but higher up
than it.


-Stephen (Steg)
 Songs That Cannot Be Sung In Newyorkese:  #1. _We're Off To See The
Wizard_
 "we're [Of] to see the wiza'd, the wonde'ful wiza'd of [az],
  we hea' he is a wiz of a wiz, if ever a wiz the'e [wVz],
  if ever oh ever a wiz there [wVz], the wiza'd of [az] is one [bikOz] -
  [bikOz]  [bikOz] [bikOz] [bikOz] [bikOz]...
  [bikOz] [Vv] the wonde'ful things he [dVz]!
  we're [Of] to see the wiza'd, the wonde'ful wiza'd of [az]!"

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