Re: RFC: Renaming 3B to Tezenki

Yitzik,
RP /V/ is rather close to [a], though further back and with spread lips
(unround). The realisations vary very much regionally. Many speakers,
especially in the US, will have [@] where the vowels in the word <abut> are
distinguished by stress alone. [@] is also typical of southern Welsh English
and for Northern English speakers who speak with an RP phoneme distribution.
Otherwise norther English speakers have no /V/. There is only /U/, so <but>
and <put> are a minimal pair distinguishing /p/ from /b/. The vowel is the
same: [U].
Dan



From: Isaac Penzev
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:29 AM
Henrik Theiling wrote:
| Eric Christopherson writes:
| > ... If so, would people whose first language is not
| > English perceive /kant/ and /kVnt/ to sound the same?
|
| E.g. Germans, most definitely yes.  /V/ is a strange sound to us
| sounding very much like our /a/ so many of us pronounce those two
| words identically.

The same is true for Russian and Ukrainian speakers. I still am not sure
about the precise quality of English /V/.
-- Yitzik