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Re: rhotic miscellany (was: Advanced English + Babel text)

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Friday, November 5, 2004, 9:03
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:03:22 -0500, J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:57:55 +0000, Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> wrote: > > >Whether something similar happened in German, I do not know. I am not > >aware of rhotacized vowels in any German dialects, but they may occur. > > To my knowledge, they don't. Also, I haven't ever heard of a German dialect > that has an approximant [r\] as in English.
I have; I remember meeting someone who spoke with what I thought was an American accent in his /r/'s -- hence, presumably [r\]. When I asked him where he was from, he assured me that he was a native German speaker and that this pronunciation was common in his area of Germany, though he was often asked whether he was foreign. Unfortunately, I don't remember where he was from, though I believe it might have been some area of Westfalia. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 07:20:42 +0000, Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> wrote:
> When I was young (chronologically) everyone called a _tortoise_ a "tortus" > - now I often hear ['tO:tOjz} - ach!
Ah. I also have ['tO:t@s] -- and ['pO:p@s], for that matter.
> Similarly in French, I was taught back in the 1950s that _août_ was > pronounced [u]. In france now it is almost invariably [ut].
Interesting; I learned [ut] in the '90's and was not aware of the previous pronunciation. Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> Watch the Reply-To!


Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>Spelling pronunciations (was: rhotic miscellany)