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Re: dwèshan phonology

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Friday, March 22, 2002, 18:00
At 9:24 PM -0800 03/20/02, Jesse Raccio wrote:
>Well here I go, I picked a large phonology mostly >becuase there have been so many sounds I have been >interested in, I could just could'nt pass them up. As >a novice please excuss me if there are some things >that are not clear. Phonology is truly my weakest >area. I am sure that this does not conform to the >X-SAMPA stuff, sorry. > >h (hw) - /h/, /h_w/ >th - /T/ >s (sw) - /s/, /s_w/ >sh - /S/ >c (cw) - /C/, /c_w/ >z - /z/ >j - /Z/ >t - /t]/ (postalv, stop) >k (q) - /k/, /k_w/ >d (dw) - /d]/, /d]_w/ (postalv, stop) >g (gw) - /g/, /g_w/ >f - /f/ >v - /v/ >p - /p/ >n - /n]/ (postalv) >m - /m/ >l - /l/ >r - /r/, /r\/ >y - /y/ > >vowels >i - front close /i/ >u - back close /u/ >e - mid front close /e/ >e` - mid front open /E/ >a - front open /a/
Do you intend the postalv[eolar] consonants to be retroflex? if so, the X-SAMPA diacritic is <`>; thus [t`, d`, n`]. Also, the palatal glide is <j>, not <y>, which is a vowel symbol. So far, this is not phonology; only an inventory of sounds. Phonology is the description of how these elements interact. For example, when do consonants become labialized? That's a question to be answered by phonology.
>/@/ and /i:/(?) are formed only in special >circumstances.
What circumstances? (another phonology question)
>A syllable can be (C)(C)V(V)(C), >however, it is rarely found at its fullest extent. The >more common syllables are CV(C).
What are examples of syllables that would fill the template? What restrictions are there on consonant clusters? Can vowels also cluster or is the VV meant to indicate a long vowel? (more phonology questions)
>CrV /r/ becomes retroflexive >CVyn or CVyl the y becomes /@/ >in this if the vowel is /a/ it becomes /i:/
Now this is phonology.
>That is all for the moment, I am sure more will reveal >itself as I continue. Would appreciate comments and >constructive critisism. Especially correction of my >representation of the IPA stuff.
I fought it for a long time, but eventually gave in to the X-SAMPA wave which has swept CONLANG (at least partially; I only use it to indicate pronunciation of surface forms and not for the presentation of underlying forms). It's worth a look (URL Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga Man deth swa he byth thonne he mot swa he wile. 'A man does as he is when he can do what he wants.' - Old English Proverb


Jesse Raccio <jraja0722@...>