Trills (was: "Proposed IPA" characters not in Unicode)
|From:||John Vertical <johnvertical@...>|
|Date:||Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:06|
Eric Christopherson wrote:
>On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:51 AM, John Vertical wrote:
> > Paul Bennett wrote:
> >> However, I discovered last night, while rolling these posts around >>
>in my mind, that I can produce a velar trill (though it sounds >>
>*horrible*) and thus a labiovelar trill. Making that into a >>
>doubly-articulated flap/tap might take work, but I think it might >> be
> > Are you sure it's a strictly velar trill, not a velarized uvular >
>trill or some sort of a gargle effect? It's not supposed to be > possible
>to trill the dorsum. Makes me wonder why the IPA still > leaves the
>palatal trill as "possible but not attestested" tho.
>What's being trilled, then, when you pronounce a uvular trill? (I've never
>been clear on why some languages have a uvular trill or fricative or
>approximant but not a velar one.)
The uvula. Can't generalize that to just any POA, can you?
(Also, while German and French get their /R/ via /R\/, I'm not sure either
where some Semitic etc. langs get the /k g X/ pattern...)
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