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Trills (was: "Proposed IPA" characters not in Unicode)

From:John Vertical <johnvertical@...>
Date:Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:06
Eric Christopherson wrote:
>On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:51 AM, John Vertical wrote: > > Paul Bennett wrote: > >> However, I discovered last night, while rolling these posts around >> >in my mind, that I can produce a velar trill (though it sounds >> >*horrible*) and thus a labiovelar trill. Making that into a >> >doubly-articulated flap/tap might take work, but I think it might >> be >worth it... > > > > Are you sure it's a strictly velar trill, not a velarized uvular > >trill or some sort of a gargle effect? It's not supposed to be > possible >to trill the dorsum. Makes me wonder why the IPA still > leaves the >palatal trill as "possible but not attestested" tho. > >What's being trilled, then, when you pronounce a uvular trill? (I've never >been clear on why some languages have a uvular trill or fricative or >approximant but not a velar one.)
The uvula. Can't generalize that to just any POA, can you? (Also, while German and French get their /R/ via /R\/, I'm not sure either where some Semitic etc. langs get the /k g X/ pattern...) John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Uutisista turhaan tietoon. Mitä ikinä etsitkin, MSN Search löytää hakemasi.


Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>