Trills (was: "Proposed IPA" characters not in Unicode)

Eric Christopherson wrote:
>On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:51 AM, John Vertical wrote:
> > Paul Bennett wrote:
> >> However, I discovered last night, while rolling these posts around  >>
>in my  mind, that I can produce a velar trill (though it sounds  >>
>*horrible*) and  thus a labiovelar trill. Making that into a  >>
>doubly-articulated flap/tap  might take work, but I think it might  >> be
>worth it...
> >
> > Are you sure it's a strictly velar trill, not a velarized uvular  >
>trill or some sort of a gargle effect? It's not supposed to be  > possible
>to trill the dorsum. Makes me wonder why the IPA still  > leaves the
>palatal trill as "possible but not attestested" tho.
>
>What's being trilled, then, when you pronounce a uvular trill? (I've  never
>been clear on why some languages have a uvular trill or  fricative or
>approximant but not a velar one.)
The uvula. Can't generalize that to just any POA, can you?

(Also, while German and French get their /R/ via /R\/, I'm not sure either
where some Semitic etc. langs get the /k g X/ pattern...)

John Vertical

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