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Re: laterals (was: Pharingials, /l/ vs. /r/ in Southeast Asia)

From:<jcowan@...>
Date:Friday, February 13, 2004, 18:08
Adam Walker scripsit:

> Well, my mother (a native Texan) says /tjuzdi/ and > /tjun/ in alternation with /tusdi/ and sometimes > /tun/.
I think "Tuesday" is a special case. My wife (born North Carolina 1943) says /tjuzdej/ and similarly ends the other day-names in /dej/, and says I sound like a gangster with my /tuzdi/. David Barrow scripsit:
> But <tr> is tSr in some accents like mine. I have train /tSr\EIn/,
Good point. I suspect that /trj/ was [t_j4_j] in the ancestor of your dialect, and that the former became /tS/ while the latter resolved to /r\/ in the general change of /4/ to /r\/.
> With other consonants <gr> <cr> <thr> etc. palatisation has been lost
/tr/ is coarticulated; the others aren't.
> /lj/ has also lost its palatisation in British speech except for > conservative speech.
I was under the impression that it still survives in Scottish Standard English. -- Business before pleasure, if not too bloomering long before. --Nicholas van Rijn John Cowan <jcowan@...> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com