Re: laterals (was: Pharingials, /l/ vs. /r/ in Southeast Asia)
From: | Joe <joe@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 19:16 |
Andreas Johansson wrote:
>Quoting Javier BF <uaxuctum@...>:
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>>>>Why having symbols for the alveolopalatal
>>>>fricatives at all, is there a language where those
>>>>contrast with palatalized [S] and [Z]?
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>>>Polish, IIRC.
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>>No, I said with _palatalized_ [S] and [Z]; that
>>is, a contrast between [s\] and [S_j] and between
>>[z\] and [Z_j], so as to justify having [s\] and
>>[z\] as individual symbols. In all the languages
>>I'm aware of, [s\] and [z\] do not contrast with
>>[S_j] and [Z_j].
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>I thought Polish did that.
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I know nothing of Polish, but here's what I do know.
It has three 'sh'-ish sounds - <sz>, <s-acute>, and <si>. AFAIK <sz> is
[s`] or [S], and both <s-acute> and <si> are [C]. I'm sure Jan will
correct me on this - I'm probably wrong.