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Re: Why Not More Nasals!!!!? (was: Is this a realistic phonology?)

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 9, 1999, 3:55
Nik Taylor wrote:

> Raymond A. Brown wrote: > > Even in Europe it possible to find languages which, like Chinese, have no > > voiced plosive phonemes but do have nasal phonemes. Scots Gaelic is one > > such language - the symbols {b}, {d} and {g} represent unaspirated > > voiceless plosives while {p} {t} {c} represent the aspirated series. > > True, but unaspirated stops are effectively the same as voiced stops in > those languages.
Well, I think the whole thing is a little silly to talk about, as it's really a false dichotomy to say that this *is* one thing or the other. Voicing is a spectrum from full vibration to lots of aspiration (who knows how much, really). I tend to like Nik's analysis here, though, because the unaspirated stops function *as if* they were voiced anyways, since they are by definition close to *that* end of the spectrum. When you're talking about phonemes, the relative VOT is what counts, of course. :) ======================================================= Tom Wier <artabanos@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." There's nothing particularly wrong with the proletariat. It's the hamburgers of the proletariat that I have a problem with. - Alfred Wallace ========================================================