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Re: USAGE: English, Masculine, Feminine

From:Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 0:55
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:42:55 +0100, Michael Poxon <m.poxon@...>

> In British English (at least in my fairly-RP version) these three are all > distinct: > Mary = /me:rij/ "short" e
Yes, that's /e:/ in CXS.
> Marry = /m&rij/
Are you sure it's /&/? /&/ is a sound midway between /a/ and /E/, and is actually quite rare in British English -- so much so that I mentally assign the attribute "foreigner" whenever I hear it. There are several non-IPA systems in which the symbol {ae-ligature} is used for the sound that is /a/ in CXS and the symbol {a} is used for the sound that is /A/ in CXS (or the sound that is between /a/ and /A/ in CXS), among them the system used for Old English (IIRC).
> Merry = /merij/ "long" e
That's /E/ in CXS.
> Not sure what A is in SAMPA,
It's "script" a, the low back unrounded vowel.
> but it sure doesn't sound like "a" over here!
Yes it does, it's the sound in most UK pronunciations of "garden" (in the first syllable). The American /A/, used all over for {o} is actually a lax vowel (sometimes half-rounded) between cardinal /A/ and cardinal /V/. At least that's what it feels like to me when I try to mimic it. Paul


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