Re: Relay time! Beethoven's Ninth

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From: Thomas R. Wier <artabanos@...>
To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU <CONLANG@...>
Date: 8. elokuuta 2000 19:49
Subject: Re: Relay time! Beethoven's Ninth


>Markus Miekk-oja wrote:
>
>> Fatherland'd be something along the lines of "Faderland"
>> (though we rather talk of fädernesland, or fosterland).
>
>Is that because "Faderland" carries heavy overtones of National Socialism?

Nope, "fäderne", I think, is an old collective noun which I presume
contains a father, and his forefathers and mothers. It can also have
a few alternative uses.

I think it has equal or even stronger overtones of National Socialism.

Fosterland means "land where you where raised", which gives a more solid
feeling of belonging to a land than just originating in it, I think.

Another usage:
"Jag är släkt med henne på fädernet" = I am realted to her, through my
father's family.

Since this word is seldom used where I live, could someone who hears this
more often/knows this/has a better etymological book/ tell me if I am
correct. I am not sure about the preposition in the above sentence, and I
even am not sure if it really should be 'fadernet'...