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Re: Heavy Metal Phonation

From:Tristan Mc Leay <kesuari@...>
Date:Thursday, July 15, 2004, 2:04
j_mach_wust wrote:
> Hi all; I'm new, and already going off-topic... (hope it's not too bad).
The point of this list is to go off-topic. If you wanted to be on-topic, you would've subscribed to romconlang or germaniconlang or celticonland or the lostlang list :)
> Tristan Mc Leay wrote: > >>my 'queue' is often much more like [kC...] than [kj...]. But not >>always. > > > To me, this seems to be a coarticulatory effect of the aspiration: > [k_hj] -> [kC]. I believe that a similar effect may occur with [l] and > [r\], e.g. in _place_: [p_hl] -> [pl_0] or [pK], or in German _Krieg_: > [k_hR] -> [kx].
You're probably right, except that I don't think I've ever heard the last two (I try and stay clear of [R]. I'd rather use a proper alveolar trill even if it's wrong; they're so much easier to say and sound nicer and damnit, if they had've* wanted something uvular and ugly, they would've used some digraph using G and Q and H and probably C, as well. And maybe a W for good measure). So if _Krieg_ spells [k_hRi:k], it should be spelt _Kghqcwhieg_. Y'here that Germans? Time to reform the german orthography! (Same goes for Fr., _être_ should be more like _êtghqcwh_.) * Again with the double have, again with the if. -- Tristan. | To be nobody-but-yourself in a world kesuari at yahoo! | which is doing its best to, night and day, | to make you everybody else--- | means to fight the hardest battle | which any human being can fight; | and never stop fighting. | --- E. E. Cummings, "A Miscellany"