Re: Heavy Metal Phonation

j_mach_wust wrote:
> Hi all; I'm new, and already going off-topic... (hope it's not too bad).
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> Tristan Mc Leay wrote:
>
>>my 'queue' is often much more like [kC...] than [kj...]. But not
>>always.
>
>
> To me, this seems to be a coarticulatory effect of the aspiration:
> [k_hj] -> [kC]. I believe that a similar effect may occur with [l] and
> [r\], e.g. in _place_: [p_hl] -> [pl_0] or [pK], or in German _Krieg_:
> [k_hR] -> [kx].
You're probably right, except that I don't think I've ever heard the
last two (I try and stay clear of [R]. I'd rather use a proper alveolar
trill even if it's wrong; they're so much easier to say and sound nicer
and damnit, if they had've* wanted something uvular and ugly, they
would've used some digraph using G and Q and H and probably C, as well.
And maybe a W for good measure). So if _Krieg_ spells [k_hRi:k], it
should be spelt _Kghqcwhieg_. Y'here that Germans? Time to reform the
german orthography! (Same goes for Fr., _être_ should be more like
_êtghqcwh_.)

* Again with the double have, again with the if.


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