Re: Heavy Metal Phonation

Hi all; I'm new, and already going off-topic... (hope it's not too bad).

Tristan Mc Leay wrote:
> my 'queue' is often much more like [kC...] than [kj...]. But not
> always.
To me, this seems to be a coarticulatory effect of the aspiration:
[k_hj] -> [kC]. I believe that a similar effect may occur with [l] and
[r\], e.g. in _place_: [p_hl] -> [pl_0] or [pK], or in German _Krieg_:
[k_hR] -> [kx].

Philip Newton wrote:
> I don't think the question on whether [x] and [ç] are separate
> phonemes has been definitively settled, but they may not be.
>
> They certainly feel very different to this German speaker,
An interesting case where the speakers' intuition doesn't match with
the linguists' analysis.

If we are to lable the phoneme, then I prefer /x/ to /C/, because, as
was said, this is found in varieties that don't distinguish the two,
and I suppose it's also historically correct. Those who don't want to
decide on how to lable it use sometimes the Greek small letter khi.

g_0ry@_^s:
j. 'mach' wust

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