Re: translation needed

rhialto@easynet.co.uk writes:
>Hey guys,
>
>I posted a request to <sci.lang.japan> to clarify my translation, and I
>received proof that idiotas are alive and well. Read on...
>
heres a reply to Mr. Eichers later posts (one of them)


On 20 Oct 1999 22:10:57 -0700, Charles Eicher <ceicher@...>
wrote:


>>What utter bullshit. These are otaku. I know the difference between
>otaku and
>>artists.
Really?  I couldn't tell.



>>
>>You remind me of an "artist" I once knew. He told me about how he liked
>to go
>>out and paint in oil colors under yellow Sodium streetlights, at night.
>The
>>streetlights washed out all colors, so he had to label his colors on his
>>pallette, and attempt to mix them blindly. The result? Pure crap
>paintings.
>>

Really? I'm surprised as an 'artist' you find his work crap. I suppose
you dislike conceptual art as well? Mr. Eicher God of Art and all that
is not frivolous should be your official title.


>>
>>Everyone seems stuck on my example, I only cited it as perhaps the peak
>activity
>>that might substitute for the bullshit one. But there are plenty of more
>>worthwhile activities, far more worthwhile than your linguistic
>masturbation.
>>Perhaps you might try donating your time to the local homeless shelter,
>or a
>>local nursing home, or etc. I've done that, its much more worthwhile than
>>sitting around inventing imaginary worlds.
>>
Hmm there's your problem,you assume conlangers spend all of their time
working on their languages. I am a part of the conlang list and my
language takes up a fraction of my time. Lets see, this week i spent
how many hours working on my language, and how many hours on school
work? Conlang - 0, School, about 40 hrs. Oh and I have done and
continue to do community service. I work to help children whose
reading skills are not up to par to improve them. Oh and their
teachers praise me for the help I give, not to mention my club at
school works to help kids with their homework afterschool, oh and dont
forget  the work i do to erradicate non-native plants from this area.
I guess i'm wasting my entire life by inventing new languages, right?
While all the other stuff I do doesnt count.

>>It is BECAUSE I am an artist that I take a very dim view of people who
>label
>>their hobbies as "Art." I just stopped reading one arts newsgroup due to
>a
>>contentious argument started by someone who declared EVERYTHING is Art.
>Sorry,
>>it isn't. What you do isn't art, it isn't even language, its
>pseudo-language.
>>
Hmm a non linguist proclaiming to know what is language, and an art
god who claims to know what is and what isnt art. I wonder, do your
friends think you are a know it all?


 You should not assume things about people you dont even know. Do you
stereotype other people for how they act? Or do you believe certain
groups are all the same way? Such thinking leads to stereotypes, and
prejudice.



I'm surprised this "artist" is so close minded. All the artists I know are
very open minded to new things.

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