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I'm all, then he's all (Was Re: English diglossia (was Re: retroflex cons...

From:James Landau <neurotico@...>
Date:Monday, February 3, 2003, 12:18
In a message dated 2/2/2003 2:15:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, romilly@EGL.NET 
writes:


> James Landau wrote: > > >> >Kankonian actually has a word for this. The word is "sen", and the entry >> for it in the dictionary is "said -- informal word used in reënacting a >> conversation". The dictionary goes on to give this example sentence: >> >> >Mui wan sen, "Ar kardasas hiel?", yau is sen, "Dani". >> And he's all, "What do you think?, then I'm all, "Cool". >> >> > >> (snip very interesting exs. & discussion) >> >Did anyone else include slang words in your conlangs that would be able >> to translate English terms like these? >> >> Well, thanks for a very stimulating post.
You're welcome. It got me thinking, at last, about colloquialisms/slang in Kash. Here's a relevant
> >> one: >> >> "to say" is _kota_ (also means 'word') >> Correct: makota 'I say..." makotasa "I said..." makotato 'I will say..."; >> hakota 'you say...' yakota 'he/she says...' etc. >> Usual: makota, hakota...etc. for all tenses >> Common, permissible (vb plus possessive): kotami 'I say/said...' kotati >> 'you say/said...kotani 'he/she/they say/said... etc. (lit. my saying ~my >> word etc.) >> >> Slangy, considered substandard (along with tendency to drop some initial >> syllables): >> tani roughly equiv. to 'says..., goes... is like...' etc with new >> conjugated forms >> matani, katani (ha- > ka-, more slang), tani or >> tanimi, taniti, sometimes tanini but more often just tani >> >> Just one goody from a 3-page outline.
So people DO have that slang expression in their conlangs! (Well, at least some people.) The -tani forms came off as elegantly formed, too (with a smooth, naturalistic creation. All languages that are spoken conversationally are going to end up with their shortened forms, a few pauses and "erms", and some way, slangy or not, of recounting conversation.