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Re: Epicene pronoun in english?

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 0:40
Tom W:
> Yes, it's not surprising cross-lingustically that there > might be a number-mismatch for nouns low in animacy; this > is quite common. However, in Greek this was a regular rule, > but in no English dialect is it regular. The peculiar fact > is that "The United States is" contradicts the pattern of > *both* dialects. The morphological plural would predict > "are" for American dialects (and indeed this *was* the agreement > used before the late 19th century), and the semantic collective > would predict "are" as well for Brits (assuming those are > the right generalizations for the respect dialects).
The English English rule is that singular subjects occur with singular or plural verbs depending on whether the subject is construed as a group of separate individuals. The jury is still out on whether verb agreement with plural subjects is also purely semantic or whether it is syntactic (-- I vote syntactic, personally). Complicating this particular example is the question of whether "The United States" is grammatically plural or (like, say, 'linguistics' and 'politics') singular, though it looks pretty singular to me. In English English "the United States have gone to war" does not mean that individual states have gone to war; it means that the USA as a many-membered collective has gone to war. Of course in your Aus textbook example, it is the states that are tearing themselves apart, but that is not unusual grammar; it's an unusual construal of the name, taking it literally, under the contextual influence of the civil war. --And.