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Re: USAGE: Shaw alphabet (was Re: USAGE: Con-graphies)

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Sunday, June 11, 2006, 18:19
Quoting caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>:

> >>caeruleancentaur wrote: > > >>For me, "dance" has the same vowel sound as is found in ant, aunt, > >>answer, pants, rancid, etc. It seems to be a more closed sound. > >>Does anyone know what I am talking about? > > >Joe <joe@...> wrote: > > >As far as I can tell, [&] seems to break in American dialects before > >nasals. So, 'dance' is /d&ns/ [d&@ns]. That's just from my > >rightpondian perspective though. > > That is some help, thanks. The X-SAMPA chart that I have gives the > Swedish word "drømme" as the example for /&/. That was no help to me > at all.
As has been pointed out '&' is one of the signs differing in meaning in X-SAMPA and CXS. The claim X-SAMPA [&] occurs in Swedish "drømme" is bewildering, however, since "drømme" isn't a Swedish word; we don't even have the letter 'ø'. It might be Danish. The closest thing in Swedish is _drömma_ "to dream", but the vowel in the first syllable is [2] in standard pronunciation, and not X-SAMPA [&] in any 'lect I'm aware of. Andreas