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Re: Language change among immortals

From:Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 5:19
kutsuwamushi wrote:

> I might as well describe my particular scenario in case anyone on the > list thinks its relevant: > > I'm writing a pair of stories that take place five thousand years > apart. The people and the country are the same. The people > (human-like, not dragons or anything) live, on average, 1000 years. > Humans are a minority in their part of the world, so I don't think > they would have much of an affect.
It's an interesting situation to speculate on. Here's my take: consider that humans average 3-4 generations per century. Then assume your immortals average 3-4 generations per _millennium_. 5 millenia = 15-20 generations :: 5 centuries human, ditto For human languages, that puts us back in the 16th Cent., 1500s; Engl. and Spanish (the ones I know best) of that period are certainly readable, but would probably sound rather strange (Engl. moreso than Spanish I suspect). By the end of the cent., both are quite readable (cf. Shakespeare and Cervantes; Engl. would still sound strange). How about 16-17th Cent. Japanese??? Assuming your immortals' culture is literate and perhaps rather static, my guess would be that there'd be probably minor changes in pronunciation only. Probably new vocab. to keep up with technological innovations. Some factors that might upset this conservative scheme: revolutions, dynastic changes, migrations (whereby in such cases a previously non-standard or stigmatized dialect might become favored)... etc.
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Could
> I simply use a natural language as an example, calculate the > generations, and scale up the number of years to fit?
That's what I've assumed. It depends on your people reproducing at a slow rate. Even if they don't, with many generations in contact, there would be some need to maintain communication. Or would
> language change continue at a similar pace, because people's language > evolves continually throughout their lives, not just primarily at one > stage of it?
Personally I feel it takes quite a jolt for a person's language to change noticeable within their lifetime. (Excluding emigration to a foreign country, of course.) The principal factor would be exposure to a dialect that is perceived as more prestigious than one's own.

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