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Re: French

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Monday, January 13, 2003, 7:17
In a message dated 2003:01:11 02.34.33 AM, joe@WANTAGE.COM writes:

>On Saturday 11 January 2003 10:31 am, Nik Taylor wrote:
>> Hee hee. I hate the sound of French, to my ears, it sounds ugly and >> indistinct, everything seems to run together like watercolors left out >> in the rain.
LOL... linguistic roots of Impressionism *snarfle!*
>> But, the grammar and history of the language is >> fascinating. :-) I just wish it sounded nicer, without all those ugly >> nasal vowels and front rounded vowels and with more stops to give some >> texture to the sound. :-) > >Yes, that's how I see it...
AFAIK it really depends on the regional accent of the French used (or abused). Ferinstanz, 3 friends of mine are either active or veteran _Legionaire Etranger_ (French Foreign Legion). Their French - usually L2 or L3 - is heavily bastardized Southern French (Marseilles-area & Corsican) with Italian, German, Spanish and English (esp'ly Cockney) influences on the phonology, lexicon, &, to some extent, even the "standard French" syntax. IIRC there even is the term _Français Legionaire_ to describe this "very coarse, vulgar French." And from what I have heard, the "street" French mesolect used in French Polynesia is even more "mutated" - being influenced by local Polynesian languages and various languages of various ex-pats and immigrants, run-aways and castaways. Evidently, Paul Gauguin's ghost is still around haunting the living ;) Hanuman Zhang €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€€º°`°º€ø,¸~-> "In the beginning was noise - raw sound, the seed sound, the One, _Nada Brahma_, the Big Bang. And noise begat rhythm. And rhythm begat everything else. And thus the Dance began. Rhythm and noise. There is terror in noise, and in that terror there is also power." - adapted from writings by Mickey Hart Sometimes the difference between noise and music is all in your head NADA BRAHMA - sound is the Godhead/sound is Cosmic Reality LILA - "the universe is what happens when God wants to play" Hanuman Zhang €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€€º°`°º€ø,¸~-> "If you're going to explore uncharted territory, it's okay to carry a compass, but not a map." - Derek Bailey "...improvisation is about change, about flux rather than stasis. ... What you want to do in the next second is changing from second to second. ... you have to be aware of the fact that improvisation is about a constant change." - Steve Beresford "Who is the individual today? We are always in motion, in flux, in a torrent of self-transformation. So much falls on the borderline of chaotic experience. Music has to reflect this unfixedness." " - Brian Ferneyhough "There is no total revolution, there is only _perpetual_ Revolution, real life, like love, dazzling at every moment." - Paul Eluard "Ride music beam back to base." - William S. Burroughs improvvisazione liquida, sospesa temporalmente e profondamente "aliena"