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Re: French

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 12:45
Philip Newton wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 20:58, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Paul Kershaw <ptkershaw@...> wrote: >>> Problem the second: Again, recall how this issue started in the first place: Someone >>> whose native language wasn't English was told, in barely more political >>> words, that his English was substandard and that he ought to write in French. >> I don't think that was elitism. That was genuine inability to >> understand each other, and IIRC, only after that misunderstanding led >> to more than a little hostility on both sides did someone suggest that >> the OP try again in French. > > Indeed. The feeling I got was also not "Your English sucks" but "I > seem to have difficulty understanding your point; since that's > possible due not to the way you present your argument but merely due > to your level of competence in English, perhaps you could express > yourself more clearly in French, to let us understand better what you > are trying to express?"
As one who said "Amen" to Sai's suggestion that the OP try again in French, may I concur wholeheartedly. Certainly I *never* intended to imply "Your English sucks", nor would I ever say or write such a thing. I cannot, of course, speak for Sai, but I would be extremely surprised if he meant any such thing either. I understood the suggestion as intending to be *helpful* - certainly that is what I intended by supporting it. I am genuinely sorry that this has been misunderstood. Personally, I find no problem in a mix of English & French. We've had IIRC the occasionally posting in Swedish. I don't recall that causing any concern at the time. I would agree that threads _entirely_ in French are not satisfactory, but where the odd bit of posting in French help, I see no problem. If one needs clarification, there are sufficient bilingual people on the list to help out (if one is wary about causing offense, a private email to one of our 'bilinguals' is possible). -- Ray ================================== ================================== CENEDL HEB IAITH, CENEDL HEB GALON. (A nation without a language is a nation without a heart) [Welsh proverb]


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