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Re: OT: School systems (was: Re: Introduction)

From:Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Sunday, April 13, 2003, 10:13
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From: "daniel andreasson" <danielandreasson@...>
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Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:57 AM
Subject: OT: School systems (was: Re: Introduction)


> Garth Wallace wrote: > > > Where I come from, junior high is two years, and middle school comes > > right before that. Kindergarten (grade 0) through 3rd grade are > > elementary school, 4th through 6th grade are middle school, 7th and 8th > > are junior high, and 9th through 12th are high school. > > Just to clear up the Swedish school system: > > Age 7-9 : lågstadiet 'low stadium' > 10-12 : mellanstadiet 'middle stadium' > 13-15 : högstadiet 'high stadium' i.e. approx. junior high > 16-18 : gymnasiet, which is approx. like high school > > You graduate in June so half of the people have turned 19 > by then. And it's possible to start school at age 6. And > that's about it. > > Låg-, mellan- and högstadiet are compulsory. Gymnasiet is not, > but I think 96% or so go on to gymnasiet anyway. Then we have > university/högskola ("högskola" is NOT the same as "high school").
OK. If smbody is interested to know school system in such an exotic country like Ukraine, here it is (sidenote: traditional English name for schoolyears in the [post]-Soviet space is "form", not "grade"): Starting at age 6: Forms 1-4: elementary (lit. "primary") school Forms 5-8: basic school Forms 9-11(12): secondary (lit. "middle") school. All this is complulsory. In Secondary school you may take optional courses ("facultatives").
> University is of course free.
After that you can have either trade training in a "PTU" (trade school) or "technicum" (college) -- this is "secondary specialized" education (and most of this may be taken just after the Basic school); or search for a more sophisticated profession going to "institute" (another kind of college, only after the Secondary school), "university" or "academy". -- this is "high school". State-owned "high schools" are free. The system is now trying to get adapted to the Western requirements, so older "diplomas" are being displaced by degrees: - specialist (after most technicums); - bachelor (after some technicums or an institute or 4 years in a uni); - master (after a university - 5/6 years + a research paper) [in the older times *this* was called "specialist", and I'm here]. To get "candidate of science" and "doctor of science", you need to cooperate with special departments of universities ("aspiranture" and "doctoranture") where you need to make individual research. -- Yitzik

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