Re: Elves and Ill Bethisad (was Re: elves and jinn (...))

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From: "John Cowan" <cowan@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Elves and Ill Bethisad (was Re: elves and jinn (...))


> Andreas Johansson scripsit:
>
> > Please don't say that Kalmar broke up - it gives me unpleasant pictures
in my
> > head of major earthquakes occuring where they shouldn't!
>
> Well, okay.  But "break up" for "dissolve" is quite usual in English
> for both literal and metaphorical applications.  When we say that the
> Beatles broke up in 1970, no actual bone fractures are contemplated,
> and the song "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" does not refer to _The
> Texas Chainsaw Massacre_.
>
> > Since Finland's still in, the 1808-09 war presumably didn't take place,
which
> > means there wasn't a reason for the '09 coup -
>
> Even without the war, an insane monarch is nothing to fool with.  It's
> not 100% clear from Kristian's messages whether he finally decided that
> Gustav IV was directly followed by Frederik VI of Denmark, or if
> Frederik took over after Karl XIII's death.
>
> > * This guy then promptly died, whereupon, bizarrely, Jean-Baptiste
Bernadotte,
> > a Marshal of France on bad terms with Napoleon, was made heir. His
descendants
> > still occupy the Swedish throne.
>
> IB's Napoleon wasn't interested in Scandinavia (he was basically trying
> to restore the Roman Empire), so Bernadotte was never a possibility.
>
> Critical early messages:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conculture/message/6005
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conculture/message/6017
>
> Some details were changed later, notably that southern Finland is
> a separate country.
>
> Here's the full and AFAIK up to date information on
> the Scandinavian Realm:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conculture/message/11386
>
> > China? How and why did they get a foothold there?
>
> Amager in Denmark and Tsingdao/Qingdao/Tjingdav were swapped by the SR
> and China, probably early in the 20th century.
>
Amager is called Hetvotjeng/Hezuocheng *there*.