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Re: IPA vowels

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Thursday, September 14, 2000, 0:19
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 04:42:56PM +0200, Kristian Jensen wrote:
> In recent literature on phonology, there is a new category of vowel > features involving the lips called "compression". Could it be that > your so called "unrounded" vowels are what could be called "compress- > lipped" (if such a term exists), and that your so called "stretched > vowels" are plain unrounded?
Well, I found that I've mislabelled my vowel table. Roundedness isn't really a parameter in the system; it's basically vertical and horizontal aperture.
> For me, at least, the difference between plain and stretched lip vowels > are so minimal that I can't really perceive them as distinctively useful > in a human language.
Well, if no other parameters change, then the difference between plain and stretched lip vowels may become negligible; however, remember that my conlang's vowel system mainly has two dimensions: aperture and "stretchedness". This means that a "stretched" vowel differs from an unstretched vowel in more than one way, so the sounds are quite distinct.
> But if your language isn't spoken by humans, then maybe IPA doesn't apply > now, does it? ;)
[snip] Well, they are approximately humanoid beings :-) Or perhaps I should say, they are humans but exist in a universe with rather different physical laws... Anyway, after some off-list discussion with some people who are interested, I've roughly decided on the closest IPA symbols that represent my 9-vowel system: (SAMPA is used for IPA symbols below) u = /u/ w = /}/ or /2/ y = /y/ o = /o/ 3 = /3/ i = /i/ 0 = /O/ a = /a/ perhaps /A/ e = /E/ perhaps /{/ T