Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)

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From: "Joseph Fatula" <fatula3@...>
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)


> From: "David Barrow" <davidab@...>
> Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)
>
>
> > jO: fA:D@
> > yaw fawtha
> >
> > |aw| for two different sounds?
>
> Well, I know that "yaw" sounds like [jO] for me, but I wasn't sure how to
> spell [fAD@].  If I wrote "fatha", it could be [faD@], as "father" is
> [faDr].  Probably "fottha" for [fAD@] would be best, but it's hard to say.
>
> > smEl?@v
> > smelk of
> >
> > |k| for glottal stop?
>
> Seeing as we don't have a regular way of spelling [?] in English, I just
> tried something that seemed close.  I know how [smEl?] sounds, but it's
hard
> to transcribe.  The biggest problem is that final consonants for me tend
to
> break off and attach to the beginning of the next word if it starts with a
> vowel.  What I ought to write would be "smell.  Of", so that there'd be
> enough of a pause to keep it from being "smeh love".
>
> > and how would you interpret this orthographically?
> >
> > [j@ mVD@ w@z@ h&mst@ n= dj@ fA:D@ smEut@v Eud@bEriz]
> >
> > [w@z@ h&mst@] can also be [w@zn= &mst@] with h dropping
> >
> > [n= dj@] or [n= j@] or even [n= dZ@]
>
> "Yuh mutha wuzzen amsta india fottha smote of odaberries."
>
> For me, /dj/ always becomes /dZj/, just as /tj/ > /tSj/.  That's why
writing
> something to be pronounced [n=dj@] is hard.  Do you not have any L sound?
>
No 'dark L' sound.  It's quite common in southern England.  It's the same
change the happened in Polish L/, originally being a 'dark L', but
delateralising(is that a word?).

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