Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)

Joe wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Fatula" <fatula3@...>
> To: <CONLANG@...>
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)
>
> > From: "David Barrow" <davidab@...>
> > Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)
> >
> >
> > > jO: fA:D@
> > > yaw fawtha
> > >
> > > |aw| for two different sounds?
> >
> > Well, I know that "yaw" sounds like [jO] for me, but I wasn't sure how to
> > spell [fAD@].  If I wrote "fatha", it could be [faD@], as "father" is
> > [faDr].  Probably "fottha" for [fAD@] would be best, but it's hard to say.
> >
> > > smEl?@v
> > > smelk of
> > >
> > > |k| for glottal stop?
> >
> > Seeing as we don't have a regular way of spelling [?] in English, I just
> > tried something that seemed close.  I know how [smEl?] sounds, but it's
> hard
> > to transcribe.  The biggest problem is that final consonants for me tend
> to
> > break off and attach to the beginning of the next word if it starts with a
> > vowel.  What I ought to write would be "smell.  Of", so that there'd be
> > enough of a pause to keep it from being "smeh love".
> >
> > > and how would you interpret this orthographically?
> > >
> > > [j@ mVD@ w@z@ h&mst@ n= dj@ fA:D@ smEut@v Eud@bEriz]
> > >
> > > [w@z@ h&mst@] can also be [w@zn= &mst@] with h dropping
> > >
> > > [n= dj@] or [n= j@] or even [n= dZ@]
> >
> > "Yuh mutha wuzzen amsta india fottha smote of odaberries."
> >
> > For me, /dj/ always becomes /dZj/, just as /tj/ > /tSj/.  That's why
> writing
> > something to be pronounced [n=dj@] is hard.  Do you not have any L sound?
> >
>
> No 'dark L' sound.  It's quite common in southern England.  It's the same
> change the happened in Polish L/, originally being a 'dark L', but
> delateralising(is that a word?).
Would Dutch koud for English/German cold/kalt be a similar sound change?

David Barrow

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