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Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Sunday, July 18, 2004, 6:06
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:16:33 -0700, Philippe Caquant
<herodote92@...> wrote:
> When I was learning German at school, we pronounced > "eu" in "Leute" like in French "oeil".
*pronounced it to himself* Yes, that's a pretty good description of a French accent while speaking German. I wonder whether all French learned this description? It sounds remarkably like a stereotypical French accent. On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:16:20 -0400, Trebor Jung <treborjung@...> wrote:
> ??? I do not understand this. I'm not sure how to pronounce French <oei>
I'd say [9j], probably. Or maybe [9H] / [9Y]. On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 22:38:23 -0000, Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> wrote:
> "Oeil" is [9j]. I never quite noticed that French people > use that for German "eu", but it makes sense. That's going > to make my fake French accent more convincing now. =)
Indeed =)
> The High German realization of the diphthong seems more like > [OH] or [O9] to me.
Hm... I'd've said [Oj], but trying out both, your probably right about the second component being [H] rather than [j]. Though I would understand [Oj] just fine as well, but I believe I say [OH]. Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

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