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Re: About Romance natlangs and conlangs (Re: ) (LONG)

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 2:01
"Grandsire, C.A." wrote:
> I don't know for the -i'a forms.
>From -ibam. Ordinarily, intervocalic voiced stops were lost in the
evolution of the Romance languages, so -ibam --> -i'a is quite regular; it's -abam to -aba that seems irregular. Maybe the fact that it was identical vowels had something to do with it? Otherwise the endings would've been: ama' ama's ama' amamos ama'is ama'n Of course, 1st and 2nd person plurals would have homophonous forms with present.
> I remember now. Anyone knows the origin of this form? It must have been > a later development compared to Latin (which had no subjunctive future > except a compound form using the future participle derived from the > supinum).
Here's where they come from: Imperfect subjunctive, -ara forms < Imperfect Subjunctive of Latin Imperfect subjunctive, -ase forms < Pluperfect Indicative of Latin Future subjunctive < Perfect Subjunctive of Latin In fact, in Portugues, the -ara forms are pluperfect, -ase forms are imperfect subjunctive, and I think that the future subjunctive of Portugues is cognate with that of Spanish. -- "Old linguists never die - they just come to voiceless stops." - anonymous http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor