Re: c-curl

Daniel Andreasson wrote:
>John Cowan wrote:
>
>>The mark of the curly-tail fricatives and affricates is that the tip of
>>the
>>tongue rests on the *lower* teeth, while the blade of the tongue
>>approaches
>>the region between the alveolar and the palatal parts of the mouth.
>
>Exactly! This is the very sound we have in Swedish. In
>Swedish terminology this is called the "tje-sound".
Not in my Swedish! My tongue does most definitely not touch my lower teeth
when I pronounce words like "tjej", but read on ...
>
>I tend to pronounce this a bit more like [S] instead of
>[s\], but all my friends tell me I pronounce it wrong.
Possibly, I do the same, but nobody's every mentioned it as something "odd"
or "wrong". I never been any good at keeping the various [S], [s`], [C] etc
sounds apart, tho'.

>The difference is very small though. I also pronounce the
>"sje-sound" [x] or rather the approximant version [M\], and
>not the way it is usually described (which is in x-sampa
>seems to be [x\], but with the lips involved somehow).
>Although, that might be a question of age.
I think I have pure [x] for the "sje-sound". My lips are in the same
position as for [s].

                                                   Andreas
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