Re: c-curl

Andreas Johansson scripsit:

> HEY! Now you're confusing me - every Swedish book I've seen mentioning the
> subject tells me that the fricative in _Kina_ is c-cedilla in IPA,
The c-cedilla is the German Ich-Laut.

> couple of days ago some other person (forgot who, sorry) said on the list
> that c-curl and c-cedilla are NOT the same, c-curl being a bit on the way to
> [s]. So, anyone feels like explaining more?
The mark of the curly-tail fricatives and affricates is that the tip of
the tongue rests on the *lower* teeth, while the blade of the tongue
approaches the region between the alveolar and the palatal parts of
the mouth.

In Chinese, at least, they are also accompanied by maximal unrounding,
so that "xi" /c-tail i/ is spoken with what appears to be a broad smile.

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