Re: SCript
From: | a. koch <k.aleks@...> |
Date: | Thursday, May 30, 2002, 1:09 |
I tried something like that, actually have it all sitting around here
somewhere *looks*
ahh yes, here we go...
It was a bit complicated because of final vowels and consonent
clusters. Mmm for example the noun for "language" was "Gäpiatćia" (I
am not going to go into all the pronounciation but "ia" is a
dipthong)
Anyways, the root was G - P - T and the ć (pronounced /tS/) was what
identified it as a noun. The vowel order of ä - ia - ia identified it
as a masculine noun.
Uhhgh this was really a complicated system I had going...Never got it
very far, though. And the pronounciation was hellish. Another example
of a noun is "zhëkarhia" which was a feminine plural noun meaning
"Weapons"...The singular form of this would be "zhëkiarhia"
Anyways...Not that any of this makes sense, and i'm sorry it doesn't.
I just don't have much information around on this sketch I had
going...
Maybe this isn't what you were thinking of anyways.
Cheers,
-Aleks
On 29 May 2002, Constructed Languages List,
<CONLANG@...> wrote:
>>On Tuesday 28 May 2002 15:13, Balazs Sudar wrote:
>>> I thought about a language - still not invented - based on the
>>> triconsonantal system. What's more important is the idea of its script. I
>>> had the idea of a script, that describes the triconsonantal roots, and has
>>> 1 sign for the row of vowels put between the consonants. That means an
>>> alphabet with only consonants, and another kind of signs standing for the
>>> vowels-combinations. Or I could write signs describing words (verb with its
>>> correct forms, noun with cases, numbers, or anything), but all this with 1
>>> sign (this could mean sings standing for only one vowel too, so I can write
>>> words that has not the same root system, for example "yes", or anything).
>>> Do you think this thing has a sense?????
>>
>> One thing I like about this list is that it provides so many useful
>>distractions from the tyrany of pressing distractions, such as that 25 page
>>paper that is due tomorrow. :)
>> *cough* Well, no one seems to have responded, so I might as well. If I
>>understand your first proposal, you would have something like the following:
>> 1-S-l-m = {shalam} = v. to be peaceful, be at peace
>> 2-S-l-m = {shalum} = n. peace
>> 3-S-l-m = {shalim} = adj. peaceful
>> 4-S-l-m = {shilam} = adv. peacefully
>> etc...
>>(Note--any resemblence to Hebrew is a mistake.)
>> If you have only three vowels, say [i a u], and a strict C-V-C-V-C system,
>>then that would give you nine possible derivations: i-i, i-a, i-u, a-i, a-a,
>>a-u, u-i, u-a, u-u. This could be rather ideal for a auxlang, but anything
>>with more naturalistic tendencies is going to give you a headache. For
>>instance, if you allow a rule for possible final vowel, that will give you 36
>>possibilities (3x3x4, with the fourth being a "null" vowel). Let's say that
>>you want the vowels to possibly appear initially, medially, and finally. So
>>that means that you have 4x4x4x4=256 possibilities. Clearly, you are in for a
>>world of pain. :)
>> As for your second proposal; hmm, that might be easier to handle. Even
>>irregulars could be handled; for instance, if the normal pattern for a verb
>>is CaCaC, but you see Verb-m-r-t (to die) and know that it is irregular, than
>>you would know that is it really pronounced "amirato" instead of "marat." Of
>>course, if you didn't know that it was irregular or just didn't know the word
>>period, you would be laughed out of the classroom, humiliated before your
>>peers, castigated for your illiteracy...but I digress.
>> Something to play with, I'll agree, but I haven't even started on things
>>like plurals, conjugations, declensions, etc.
>> :Peter
>>
>>
>>> I'd like the people who know arabic, hebrew, or any of these languages to
>>> tell me some opinions... Maybe it's too difficult to be useful.
>>>
>>> Balazs
>>
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