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Re: SCript

From:M. O. <moriquende@...>
Date:Saturday, June 1, 2002, 19:45
>From: Balazs Sudar <conlang@...> > >I thought about a language - still not invented - based on the >triconsonantal system. >What's more important is the idea of its script. I had the idea of a >script, that describes the triconsonantal roots, and has 1 sign for the row >of vowels put between the consonants. That means an alphabet with only >consonants, and another kind of signs standing for the vowels-combinations. >Or I could write signs describing words (verb with its correct forms, noun >with cases, numbers, or anything), but all this with 1 sign (this could >mean sings standing for only one vowel too, so I can write words that has >not the same root system, for example "yes", or anything). Do you think >this thing has a sense?????
I think it has.
>I'd like the people who know arabic, hebrew, or any of these languages to >tell me some opinions... Maybe it's too difficult to be useful. > >Balazs
Well, I do not know much Arabic, Hebrew or anything, but I do have been planning on a similarish script, if I understand you correctly. :) Main problem with it is that the language it should be based on - Camzic - isn't actually even under construction yet, so I don't know if the script actually works or if it needs some re-thinking. The first scetches look pretty, though... Camzic is only slightly Semitic-inspired. It does not have triconsonantal roots. The number of consonants varies. However, it inflects by inner vowel changes and so, I think, nicely fits this kind of script. I decided to mark real vowels by signs placed at the beginning of the word. I had also played with the idea of marking grammatical forms (like cases) but decided against it. This way I can use one vowel sign for several different forms or even different word classes, if they happen to get the same voweling at some point. Besides, I just like phonemic ortographies. It will also be more of confusion, when I'll write my other conlang in that script. >:) So, these vowel signs can mean for instance, "all vowels A", "all others A but last one O", "A - some I's - O" etc. That'll probably be the most practical way, if the words can be of various length - leaving the number of some vowels unspecified. After the vowel sign, there are the consonant characters in order. Between the consonants are little diacritics which point the places where the vowels go to. One that looks like an acute accent means unstressed vowel, and one like a small, loosely drawn 9 is stressed vowel. So I don't have to specify vowel places either in the first vowel sign, only their order. :) Thus the number of different vowel signs will hopefully stay in bearable limits. Why to use such a complicated system? Well, it leaves the word root unchanged, so it will always look the same and be easily recognised. Also, if in past the consonants were invented first (as seems to be with many natural scripts), this would probably be one possible logical direction of development. It is all written from top to bottom, by the way. This minimizes the problems of left-handed writers. They can even write the vertical rows from right to left, if that feels better (standard being to right) and it'll still be quite easily readable. Hope this gave you some ideas, so *cough* I'd have an excuse for chatting about my script... ;) --- - M. O. (now in ASCII) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.