On 1/19/06, tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> wrote:
> --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@M...> wrote:
> > I would never put a [?] in any of those, FWIW. A hiatus, perhaps,
> > but never a glottal stop.
>
> I have heard it.
I have no doubt! I didn't intend to claim otherwise; I was only
speaking for a native speaker of my idiolect. :)
> > I'd say "vacuum" is a bogus example. Despite the spelling, there
> > are only two syllables and only one vowel sound in the second
> > syllable; it's /'v&k.jum/, not /'v&k.ju.um/.
>
> Four major dictionaries on-line list all three pronunciations.
> Three of them list the ".ju.@m" pronunciation _first_.
Whups. My bad. I had no idea anyone pronounced it that way. It
didn't even occur to me that *you* might pronounce it that way,
despite your using it as an example! Sorry. I can be thick-headed
sometiems.
> > English has a word "permille" analogous to "percent" for parts per
> > thousand; there's even a symbol for it, analogous to %: o/oo. Rarer
> > still are "permyriad" and the corresponding symbol, meaning
> > parts per 10,000.
>
> Thanks; I've never heard or seen either of those words in English
> before.
Neither had I until I ran across their symbols in the Unicode
Standard. As I said, they're somewhat rare. Perhaps even archaic at
this point.
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Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>