Re: new lang idea . . .

En réponse à Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>:

>
> How boring!
?!!!

 Speaking of [x\] and similars, are there any languages
> beside
> certain misguided variants of Swedish that actually use [x\] or other
> "double" fricatives? X-SAMPA appears not to have symbols for any
> others.
>
They can be rendered at will with the tie bar (as it's done with doubly
articulated stops like [k_p] or with affricates [t_S]). Why does IPA have a
single sign specifically for that one by the way? (or is it a fossil from
earlier versions of IPA, which did have separate signs for affricates for
instance?).

>
> Well, that agrees with what he said about vowel qualities, but he
> must've
> left something out about stress,
That's what I think too.

 unless that "s" is a stealth
> geminate.
>
> (Maggelish idea: an orthography where geminated consonants are indicated
> by
> variant spellings of adjacent vowels. Is there any such beast out
> there?)
>
Well, *that* would be fun! Unfortunately I don't think Maggel has that,
although its rendering of geminates is rather complicated as it is. Basically,
double letters might be geminates (but they aren't always so, like in the name
|maggel|, where the geminate is not a true one, the first |g| being just a mark
of length of the second vowel), but they often aren't (latest find: |ssaib|
['s&b]: each seven of them, where the first |s| is just a mark of
nominalisation of the adjective, and is not pronounced here. Note that often
people forget one |s| and write it |saib|, making it identical to |saib|
['s&p]: seven. This is helped by the fact that |ss| is written in Maggel script
using a ligature nearly identical to a single |s|). |t| in front of a consonant
often marks gemination of that one, but it's not always true (no example at
hand though). Finally some geminates are just not marked at all...

Christophe.

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