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Re: Thank you & Sabyuka (Was: Re: Knowledge-related roots in sabyuk)

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Saturday, August 10, 2002, 18:09
[This should have gone to the list! Wesley, apparently you
had it set to reply to yourself, not the list.]

On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:58, Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> Actually it's a good subject of discussion on this list: how you all say > "thank you" in your languages?
To thank properly in Phaleran requires knowing your social status. To perceived compatriots and members of the same caste, one uses _sikâri_, which is simply "to thank". To those of somewhat higher castes, such as clerics or upper-level bourgeoisie, one says _twailatþe th'eresswanti_, lit. "your grace commands". (The plurality of the suffix -tþe, makes reference to the class as a whole, i.e., "the grace inherent in someone like you", as plurality is not normally an indicator of honorifics; note also that the suffix -nt- is singular, not plural -nn-.) To those of the novitiate nobility, one says _tšhalenkabronti_, lit. "I am cleansed". Although very, very few people every come into regular contact with the terrestrial nobility, there are special forms for them: _rankaruo th'ereskwâlti_ "as at [my] ablution you would command". (The verb _th'eresswa_ "command", in fact, is an all-purpose politeness marker; just about anything can be made more polite by its use.)
>And do you know of any "strange" or unusual > ways of thanking, whether in conlangs or natlangs?
There is a special ablution ritual on Phalera during the periodic eclipses by Gelenê, during which one ritually thanks one's family and ancestors. This takes the form of a blessing: eaniwo twailal eo tyâs shadow.DAT grace.3Sg 3Sg 2SgBEN "The shadow's grace be upon you", lit. "In the shadow, his grace [be] for you." Not to do so would bring on inauspicious events. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier Dept. of Linguistics "Nihil magis praestandum est quam ne pecorum ritu University of Chicago sequamur antecedentium gregem, pergentes non qua 1010 E. 59th Street eundum est, sed qua itur." -- Seneca Chicago, IL 60637