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Re: Furrin phones in my own lect! (YAGPT warning!)

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Monday, March 27, 2006, 23:20
On 3/27/06, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Hi! > > Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> writes: > >... > > Ditto. But very few get into non-book-standard speech very > > seriously. > > [6] is definitely part of Standard German pronunciation.
Yeah. It's probably something they don't go into until later. IME, most foreign language courses in the US start out with an approximate pronunciation and only bother with the details as part of an advanced course in "how to develop a native accent". Guess it's too much work to go through the phonetic details with the students who won't stick with it anyway. After all, you will no doubt be understood perfectly by Germanophones if you say [R] instead of [6] - you'll just obviously have an accent. I wonder, though, if the average linguistically-naïve L1 German speaker would be able to tell you exactly what was wrong with your speech that was giving you the accent? Heck, they didn't tell us about intervocalic fricatization in Spanish until year 3. The exception would be my college course in Russian, where we learned how to properly pronounce all the phones even before we learned to read Cyrillic. Unaspirated stops, palatalization, the works. -- Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>