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Re: Furrin phones in my own lect! (YAGPT warning!)

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 28, 2006, 11:55
On 3/28/06, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> writes: > > For example, "Telefon" is (for me) ['te:l@fo:n] but "telefonisch" is > > [tel@'fo:nIS]; the [e:] turned into [e]. I'd say they're the same > > phoneme, though. (Again, though, the short allophone is, I think, > > restricted to borrowings.) > > Exactly. I've seen half-long diacritics for these unstressed long > vowels that are reduced to (almost) short duration.
*nods* I've seen that, too.
> I mainly use /e/ becaues there are other mid-close vowels with > short-long pairs, but only one mid-open long vowel /E:/. Therefore, > for symmetry, I use: > > /o:/ vs. /o/ > /2:/ vs. /2/ > > And also: > /e:/ vs. /e/
Makes sense. Not the convention I use, but for a phonemical analysis, it seems fine to me. Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>