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Re: Wenedyk - Master (?) Plan

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 4:52
 --- Roger Mills wrote:

> Jan van Steenbergen wrote: > > > >> > >Nasalization of the preceding vowel leads (like in Russian and other > >> > >Slavic languages, but unlike in Polish) lead to the following changes: > >> > >[a~] [u] > > Back to this-- is it possible the correspondence results from a previous > schwa stage? or unaccented vowel of some sort?
I doubt it. It occurs often on accented vowels, too. But of course, who said that schwa cannot be accented?) The most likely way for this soundchange to develop, I guess, it through the following stages: 1 2 3 4 5 a~ > a_u~ > o_u~ > ou > u (3 is the actual pronunciation of Polish a-ogonek, while 4 can be encountered in Czech). Just try for yourself: a nasalized [u~] is hard to produce and hard to distinguish from a normal [u]
> How about */kantár/ > k@ntár ~k@~tár or k@tár (whichever you would prefer) > while > */kánt-.../ > kánt- ~ ká~t ? > > Of course it will depend on whether the infinitive form is retained.
Polish has no schwa, and I think Wenedyk won't have it either. Besides, I consider the possibility of shifting the accent to the penultimate syllable (as does Polish), so: kantár > ká~tar > kátar or kútar Anyway, in Polish it would be written /ka,tar/ and pronounced [kántar], and we are back where we started :) Jan ===== "Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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