Re: Strange phonology
From: | FFlores <fflores@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, March 10, 1999, 13:59 |
Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:20:03 -0300 FFlores <fflores@...> writes:
> >1) Have you ever heard of an aspirated trill?
>
> Well, i can certainly pronounce it, and it sounds cool, so why not?
I'm definitely having it.
>
> >3) Is it reasonable to have an aspiration contrast
> >for nasals?
>
> With the air coming out of your nose?
That's just gross. :-[
No, just a normal oral aspiration, nasal + /h/.
>
> >4) I just produced a sound more or less like the
> >one a child might produce when he sticks out the
> >tip of his tongue between his teeth, and blows.
> >I found in this way you can produce a trill
> >(makes your lower lip shake) or an approximant
> >(air going between the tongue and the lower lip),
> >though I don't know if they exist in any language,
> >or how to call them. What do you think?
>
> You can also make a stop, a sound which i just discovered recently. I've
> never heard of any of these "lingua(bi?)labial" (i think that's the word)
> sounds in any languages.
>
Well, someone said the linguolabial stop did exist
in a few languages. The problem is that any accidental
vibration turns it into a trill if you really want to
make the sound distinctive (or that's just me). And if
you don't try hard to make the distinction, it ends up
becoming too close to a simple labial (/p/).
No, I'm having two linguolabial trills, just as I have
two alveolar trills: one voiced, one unvoiced and aspirated.
(The main drawback here is that the aspirated linglab trill
makes you spit the hearer.)
--Pablo Flores
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