Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

Re: Numerals Re: Re: Agglutinating -> inflecting

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 21:47
Quoting John Cowan <jcowan@...>:

> Andreas Johansson scripsit: > > > Would he have used _romani_ like that? Last I read of this episode, > the writer > > assumed the expected address has been _milites_. > > That's certainly how Suetonius tells it: > > # Decimanos autem Romae cum ingentibus minis summoque etiam urbis > # periculo missionem et praemia flagitantes, ardente tunc in Africa > bello, > # neque adire cunctatus est, quamquam deterrentibus amicis, neque > dimittere; > # sed una voce, qua 'Quirites' eos pro militibus appellarat, tam > facile > # circumegit et flexit, ut ei milites esse confestim responderint et > quamvis > # recusantem ultro in Africam sint secuti; ac sic quoque > seditiosissimum > # quemque et praedae et agri destinati tertia parte multavit.
Latin is essentially a language that Andreas does not know ... Would you happen to have a translation of this piece at hand? Andreas
> Tacitus, who only mentions the story in passing, is rather more vague. > But > of course who knows what was in Caesar's mind at the time? > Lewis's Elementary Latin Dictionary says: > > # Quiris, itis, gen plur. tium, m [Cures] .-- Plur, the inhabitants > of > # Cures, Quirites: prisci, V.--After the Sabines and the Romans were > united, > # the people were called Quirites: ita geminata urbe . . . Quirites > # a curibus appellati, L.; the term implied civilians, while Romani > was > # regarded as the name of warriors and rulers. The two were united in > # various phrases designating the whole people: populus R. Quiritium, > the > # Roman commonwealth of Quirite citizens, L.: exercitus populi R. > Quiritium, > # L.: populus R. Quiritesque, L.: Quirites Romani, L.; orators often > # addressed the people as Quirites.--In the phrase, ius Quiritium, the > # civil rights of a citizen in Rome: iure Quiritium liber esse.--Sing, > # a Roman citizen, Quirite: dona Quiritis, H.: reddere iura Quiriti, > O.: > # Quis te re donavit Quiritem Dis patriis? i. e. unharmed, H.--Of > bees, > # citizens, commonalty: ipsae regem, parvosque Quirites Sufficiunt, V. > > -- > "We are lost, lost. No name, no business, no Precious, nothing. Only > empty. > Only hungry: yes, we are hungry. A few little fishes, nassty bony > little > fishes, for a poor creature, and they say death. So wise they are; so > just, > so very just." --Gollum jcowan@reutershealth.com > www.ccil.org/~cowan >

Reply

John Cowan <cowan@...>