Re: Fourth Person

On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:12:44 -0700 Frank George Valoczy
<valoczy@...> writes:
>On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Christopher Palmer wrote:
>
>> 1p = speaker
>> 2p = hearer
>> 3p = anyone else
>> 4p = no one really uses this; all possible objects of discourse are
>> covered by 1p, 2p and 3p
>> 'one' = some entity, underspecified for everything except person =
>3p
>
>3p = anyone else who is present
>4p = anyone else who is not present
>
>-------ferke
>Ferenc Gy. Valoczy
Talking about the "present"ness of the 3rd/4th person....
In Hebrew grammatical terminology, the three persons are referred to as:

medabeir (speaker) = 1st
nokhei'ahh (present) = 2nd
nistar (hidden) = 3rd

So at least the terminology refers to the third person as "not present",
meaning "not present in the conversation".

The three persons are also referred to simply as _guf rishon_, _guf
sheini_, and _guf shlishi_ - first person, second person, and third
person. (_guf_ literally means "body", though)

-Stephen (Steg)

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