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Re: Digest-- Flags, millionaire, etc. (mostly OT)

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 21, 2000, 19:41
Muke Tever (?):
>>Well, except that the "syllabic R" in English is a rhotacized schwa (in >>XSAMPA /@`/ and /3`/... is 3 right?). >>So <curb> is /k3`b/.
Danny Wier:
>I wonder why X-SAMPA uses the retroflex mark with schwa (and /3/, the >mid-open schwa). For me, the syllabic R is more retracted (i.e. >semi-pharyngealized) than retroflex. Mandarin "er" is retroflex.>
Possibly we're confusing rhotic/non-rhotic speech here? /k3`b/ vs. /k3b/?? A British visitor to our school in Indonesia totally perplexed the (advanced, and very good) English-lang. students with his pronunciation of "smirk" /sm3k/.