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White Wolf Language-Butchery (was: Chinese/japanese Pronounciation)

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 15:47
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 23:49:39 +0200 "Stefan \"1of3\" Koch"
<OneOfThree@...> writes:
> Hi. > A role-playing friend of mine asked me for the proper pronounciation > of two > chinese/japanese words from White Wolf's role-playing game "Kindred > of the East". > Unfortunatly I have no idea of these languages. > The words are > Kuei-jin: mixture of Chinese and Japanese. "kuei" should be Chinese > for > something like "specter" and "jin" is Japanese. Don't ask me why the > authors mixed that. > The other is "quincunx" which is Chinese. > It would be very nice of you to help me. > Stefan
- Sorry i can't help you with that, but i can complain about White Wolf's use of languages too :-) . I've always been interested in the Middle Eastern features of their games, like the Assamites from Vampire, and the Ahl-i-Batin from Mage. Many of the terms connected to those groups are Arabic, and since i'm taking Arabic now (i think my final is on friday) i like trying to check up on them. Like, in the Assamite clanbook, it says that their Western name is derived from Assam, a 'European mis-hearing or mispronounciation' of their founder's name, Haqim. Now, whether "Haqim" is supposed to represent /Ha:kim/ or /Haki:m/ or something with a /q/ or who knows what is one question, but i find it hard that anyone could mistake "Haqim" for "Assam" - the only thing they share in common is one |a| and an |m|. So, i looked through the dictionary, and came up with the idea that the term "Assamite" could 'actually' be from /as'amm/ "deaf" or /samm/ "poison" (the first with emphatic /s/, the second with regular). And when it comes to the Ahl-i-Batin from Mage, i have no idea what that medial |-i-| could be... maybe someone else here would know, but i just thought that it would make more sense as /ahl alba:t'in/, "people (of) the subtle (one)". And then i have a friend who created his own RPG system, and who has the habit of using random apostrophes to make names sound 'alien' :-P I like to get back at him by pronouncing them as ejectives... -Stephen (Steg) "yaldi hatov veharakh al tira' ve'al tifhhad..." ~ 'prince of egypt', yokheved's song


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