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Re: OT-ish: txt - Could it replace Standard Written English?

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Saturday, March 8, 2003, 1:23
Mike Ellis wrote:
> Would Spanish teachers leave > conjugation or gender out of the curriculum? Or leave out any instruction > altogether, since the students will eventually pick up some form of the > language on their own? "Don't worry about the politeness levels in > Japanese, talk to everyone the same and they'll still get the gist of it."
What kind of Spanish or Japanese teachers? Spanish or Japanese as a native or second language? Because I'm sure as native languages, they could easily skip it, and as second languages, it's a poor comparison, because most people who speak English as a native language speak it as ... well ... a native language.
> The "corpus" is written Maggelitously. And so you must learn to read it > that way.
Because you can read something one way doesn't mean will write it that way. There's a difference between passive and active knowledge.
> None of those things make spelling irrelevant. The job of the English > teacher *is* to teach the proper language.
I'm not entirely sure about that. The existence of a 'proper language' is in itself debatable. And thene there's the fact that English (at least in Victoria) has become more like 'Analysing Writing'.
> And consider your audience: what > good are arguments if your reader can't decipher the text?
That's not a valid argument here. Eventually, everyone who can't read txt will be dead (or txt will be). Sure there'll be a while when not everyone will be able to understand everything, and after that they'll be a few difficulties when dialectalisms are more common, but they exist in speech, too. Anyway, your arguments are aimed towards a particular audience. A Swahili monoglot can't understand English.
> The student in question demonstrates a form of English > which is more dumbed-down and esoteric than ever before.
Sometimes you have to take a step back to go forwards again. (And it would probably make newspapers cheaper if they didn't have to waste space on obviously irrelevent vowels ;) ) Tristan.