Re: another silly phonology question

On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 10:46:39PM -0500, Padraic Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Raymond Brown wrote:
>
> >At 10:02 am -0500 28/11/00, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> >>I thought it was American that's
> >>pronouncing /t/ as [?] :-)
> >
> >Alas, no   :=(
>
> Actually, a lot do. Though I don't think it's as pronounced
> or as thoroughgoing.
>
> >
> >Colloquial Bri?ish English has fousands of glo??l stops.
>
> Too roight!
>
> >
> >>But then again, what do I know about colloquial British... :-)
> >
> >Nuffink   :-)
>
> No? " nuffin "? Wo? sor? a burk says " nuffink "? :)
>
> Well, I learnt English by watching telly, so I may be wrong!
>
> Padraic.
>
> >Ray.
Is that labial version of /T/ actually [f]? I've been unable to firmly
identify it from what little exposure I've had to it from TV, but it kind of
seems to me that it's somehow different from [f]. Maybe a coarticulation or
something...

And speaking of British sounds, I know I've also heard [?] for /k/ more than
once, and maybe even /p/.

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Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo